Skip to content
Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

Main Street Plaza

A Community for Anyone Interested in Mormonism.

two intriguing news stories on the homosexuality front

profxm, March 4, 2009

I caught this article about an email campaign that allegedly has the support of the LDS leadership to contact state representatives in Illinois on civil union legislation. I have to admit, it seems fishy to me. I don’t think the LDS leadership would sponsor an email quite like that. Does anyone have “further light and knowledge on this”? Or maybe the time to look it up?

There is also an attorney calling for a criminal investigation into the Mormon Church for its involvement in the suicides of numerous gay members. While it is certainly the case that the Mormon Church and its doctrines bear much of the blame for these suicides, the precedent that would be set by pressing criminal charges against the religion would be mind-boggling. Maybe lawyer readers of Main Street Plaza can comment on this, but it seems to me like this would never fly in our overly religious country. Though, maybe it might considering the child sex abuse cases against the Catholic Church. Maybe that is precedent enough?

Homosexuality

Post navigation

Previous post
Next post

Related Posts

Utah State Legislature drafting Nondiscrimination Bill

February 8, 2013February 8, 2013

The Utah State Legislature is currently drafting a bill for housing and employment nondiscrimination for LGBTs statewide after months of closed door discussions.  Good, right? Well, here’s the scary part:  one of the sticking points is whether churches as institutions should be exempt from the discrimination ban, or if adherents…

Read More

A Silver Lining Behind Tad Callister’s No-Good, Heartless, Horrible Church News Article

June 3, 2021June 3, 2021

Just in time for Pride Month, a General Authority emeritus has published an article in The Church News declaiming the social safety nets because governments must ensure wickedness never was happiness. Well, not in so many words, but it has all the unloving, racist, outdated implications you’d expect. Tad Callister…

Read More

Patriarchy, redux

June 22, 2011June 22, 2011

A recent post on a Mormon-themed group blog asked the question What are some of the common themes that emerge in patriarchal societies? It then compared these societies with Mormonism. There were a number of parallels. To me, the most interesting aspect of this article was what it didn’t mention….

Read More

Comments (6)

  1. Andrew S says:
    March 5, 2009 at 12:47 am

    this appears to just be a letter sent by one woman which one bishop (very unfortunately) gave the green light to.

    I think someone at Mormon Matters described what PROBABLY happened well:

    Sister Combs: “Bishop, can I send an e-mail to everyone about this bill?”

    Bishop Church, sighing inside: “Sister, you can send whatever e-mail you want to send.”

    Bishop Church, under his breath as he hangs up: “Why do these people call me with questions like this?”

    Sister Combs, after Bishop hangs up: “Bishop Church authorized my message!!”

  2. Sabayon says:
    March 5, 2009 at 1:12 am

    Word is the Bishop wrote it and directed the website administrator to send it out using the e-mail list. That is a far cry from church HQ sending it out though, which seems really unlikely. Many are still crying top down conspiracy though (http://www.pamshouseblend.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=9751), but then I think the church has only itself to blame for its image a monolithic entity where every policy comes straight from the leaders mouth.

  3. profxm says:
    March 5, 2009 at 4:48 am

    I figured that had to be the case, but I’m glad someone actually has the information on the email. I did find someone I thought might be the Kristy Combs from the email:
    http://bluefoxnauvoo.com/cat_list.cfm?catID=6

    But now that I know it was pretty much limited to Nauvoo, I can suggest that it’s very likely that Kristy Combs.

  4. Gen JC Christian says:
    March 5, 2009 at 1:24 pm

    it doesn’t really matter if it was only a bishop. he felt comfortable enough with the Church’s postion denying human rights to gays (and interfering in politics) that he allowed the email to be sent.

  5. Hellmut says:
    March 5, 2009 at 2:44 pm

    Sabayon’s account seems more plausible to me. The message of the email is actually quite sophisticated. It’s not been written by some wingnut.

    The Mormon record on child abuse does not appear to be much better than the Catholic one. There are cases of bishops molesting children. In other cases, bishops and stake presidents failed to report the sexual abuse of children. And there are the usual cover ups.

    Unlike the Catholic Church, we even excommunicated the mothers of abused children when they refused to shut up. In that respect, we are even worse than the Catholic Church.

    The difference between the Mormon and Catholic pedophilia scandal is probably not the magnitude of the problem, especially if one controls for the size of the congregations, but that Catholics are less likely to submit to authority. Arguably, many Mormon lawsuits have been suppressed by pressuring victims and witnesses.

    Nonetheless, the LDS Church has been taken to court several times. From the media coverage, it appears that their lawyers hide behind the ‘volunteer’ bishops to eschew responsibility.

    I have seen it in at least one case that a sex abuse victim has been subject to severe emotional abuse when she participated on an apologetic board to explain her motive for suing ‘the’ Church.

    In the army, we were taught that the fish begins to stink at the head. By contrast, Mormonism’s ethical precepts resemble bicycling: bowing to the top and kicking below.

    It was disgusting how the apologists tore into that poor girl. Anything for the Lord, I guess.

  6. Sabayon says:
    March 6, 2009 at 12:49 am

    Wow, clearly is was a good cover up because I have never heard anything about Mormon church abuse scandals (although it’s hardly surprising given what unrestricted access Bishops have to youth).
    Still, I also think it’s simple prurience that made the Catholic sex abuse scandal bigger (also because the Catholic church is bigger). It was just the idea of abstinent priests abusing innocent altar boys (although most abuse victims were girls, but don’t even get me started on the homophobia and misogyny that made it so all we heard about was boys being abused or we’ll be here all day) that caught the imagination of the press, that was just so juicy.
    Back to topic, I think Gen JC’s point is a good one. The Bishop clearly felt “inspired” that this was all in line with the church’s feelings on teh gays, so even if the e-mail was non issued by LDS, inc the fault is entirely their own.

Leave a Reply

Your email address will not be published. Required fields are marked *

Mormon Alumni Association Books

Latest Comments:

  1. Holly on Feeling Spiritually Defrauded By Spiritual Fraudsters (Unrighteous Dominion)December 28, 2025

    The Augustine quote I think of most often is "Lord, give me chastity--but not yet." I think "proposing problems that…

  2. Andrew S. on Feeling Spiritually Defrauded By Spiritual Fraudsters (Unrighteous Dominion)December 28, 2025

    What's that quote from St. Augustine? "The wicked tell me of things that delight them, but not such things as…

  3. Holly on Feeling Spiritually Defrauded By Spiritual Fraudsters (Unrighteous Dominion)December 28, 2025

    Hi Donna-- Your quip about "real fun" reminded me of Russ Nelson's 2016 statement on joy: “If we look to…

  4. Donna Banta on Feeling Spiritually Defrauded By Spiritual Fraudsters (Unrighteous Dominion)December 28, 2025

    Holly, I love the cheese and crackers analogy! It amazes me that so many LDS -- including some former LDS…

  5. Donavan on Mormon Stories and John Dehlin’s Mystery CycleDecember 27, 2025

    COJCOLDS is tribalism, no different, no better than MAGA, built on repeating lies and aligning the worst aspects of human…

8: The Mormon Proposition Acceptance of Gays Add new tag Affirmation angry exmormon awards Book Reviews BYU comments Dallin H. Oaks DAMU disaffected mormon underground Dustin Lance Black Ex-Mormon Exclusion policy Excommunicated exmormon faith Family feminism Gay Gay Love Gay Marriage Gay Relationships General Conference Happiness Homosexual Homosexuality LDS LGBT LGBTQ Link Bomb missionaries Modesty Mormon Mormon Alumni Association Mormonism motherhood peace politics Polygamy priesthood ban Secularism Sunstone temple

Awards

William Law X-Mormon of the Year:

  • 2024: Nemo the Mormon
  • 2023: Adam Steed
  • 2022: David Archuleta
  • 2021: Jeff T. Green
  • 2020: Jacinda Ardern
  • 2019: David Nielsen
  • 2018: Sam Young
  • 2017: Savannah
  • 2016: Jeremy Runnells
  • 2015: John Dehlin
  • 2014: Kate Kelly
  • 2013: J. Seth Anderson and Michael Ferguson
  • 2012: David Tweede
  • 2011: Joanna Brooks
  • 2010: Monica Bielanko
  • 2009: Walter Kirn

Other Cool Sites!

WasMormon.org
©2025 Main Street Plaza | WordPress Theme by SuperbThemes